BYSON LEATHER

 

 

Please read this.

Prices for Irvin work (and to a lesser extent that on other vintage flying kit) are a guide. These garments are getting on for 80 odd years old in some cases and working on them can be a minefield. When you send an Irvin jacket (or any other vintage flying kit) to us, PLEASE don't cram it in a bag. Place it in a box, as flat and unfolded as possible -they really can be that delicate. On receipt we will go over it and send you an ESTIMATE detailing the work we consider necessary. Sometimes you may be able to "cherry pick" from this but sadly for some jackets, when we say "necessary" we mean it.
We have tried to provide this estimate service at no charge but for Irvins and some others we have to charge for time. A recent jacket took us well over an hour and a half to go over.

We would rather not alter wartime jackets. We will (and can) however alter modern reproductions within reason. As always it is easier to make them a little smaller rather than a little larger. Although we CAN make them a bit larger, matching the hide for inserts is not always possible. We can't alter them blind however and a visit will almost certainly be necessary. A good opportunity to visit the IWM at Duxford.

The price guide is not exhaustive, it just covers the more common repairs on the more usual garments.

 

IRVIN                  
Mould treatment     12.00   B3        
Front zip fit   52.50   Replace straps     12.00 Each.
Sleeve zip fit   52.50            
Riri zip long   28.00   A2        
Byson "DOT" front zip     60.00            
DOT arm zip     75.70   Cuffs fit pr   30.30  
Riri zip short   14.10   Cuffs Supply   25.90  
With Byson "DOT" puller     30.00   Cuff & waistband set Supply   51.90  
YKK zip     14.10   Cuff & waistband set Fit   60.60  
New banding per inch   2.30   Waistband Supply   25.90  
Seams under banding "   3.50   Waistband fit   30.30  
"Fluff transplant" for hole from 8.30   Clean & condition light   35.00  
Shorten cuffs with zips <2"   56.80   Clean & condition heavy   58.20  
Shorten cuffs with zips >2"   102.20   Fit zips     52.40  
Re-make collar     60.00   Talon M39 (triple marked)     130.00  
Wartime Lightning zip (front)     104.80   Talon zip M-42     65.10  
Wartime DOT zip dt     130.00   Conmar M-41     58.20  
Wartime DOT zip st     115.00   Collar fit   23.30  
Neck strap     12.00   Hook & eye     5.80  
D rings & strap     14.10   Re-line in cotton     162.80  
Area of stitching     5.90 min Re-line with customer provided fabric     136.10  
Mend & Patch     12.00 min Repair patch pocket     23.30  
Repair half belt     12.00 (each side)          
Make half belt     58.30 Complete - buckle G-1        
Belt loop (make & fit)     14.10   Fit zips     52.30  
Zip puller (make & fit)     8.30   Cuffs supply   25.90  
Hanging loop     9.50   Cuffs fit   23.20  
Anti-fungal treatment     35.10   Waistband supply   25.90  
Clean & condition light   46.60   Waistband double fit   34.90  
Clean & condition heavy from   58.30   Waistband single fit   45.00  
Clean to work     12.00   Collar supply   12.00  
Condition only     17.60   Collar fit   50.00  
Extend sleeve where cut down     40.00 (each side) Conmar zip, Aluninium     74.40  
Restore cuffs (ea)     25.00   Conmar zip, brass, "safety pin" puller     74.40  
Shorten sleeves without moving zip     57.00            
Shorten sleeves moving zip     110.00   G3        
Restore waist     100.00   Make side strap per half   12.00  
Rivets     6.00   Buckle     12.00  
                   
          D1        
          Make collar     50.00  
                   
          M422a        
          Waistband fit   60.00  
                   
          MA1        
01-01-2021         Knit collar     poa  

And this...

Single layer waistband knits in US jackets are MUCH harder (and therefore more expensive) to fit than single layer ones. Hence the price differential.

Original zips can be HORRIBLY expensive. A nice, working DOT zip can go for well over £100 on a well-known Internet Auction site - the DOT zips tend to be much more fragile than the stronger Lightning type. The zips we quote above for US jackets are new old stock. They are getting harder to find & are going up in price. And we can't get them in the UK so prices are subject to the vagaries of the exchange rate and HMRC. We can however source reasonable reproduction zips.

A couple of times we have been asked to re-line reproduction USAAF flying jackets which are lined with an"escape and evasion" map. It is pretty much impossible to source this fabric now so we have had to fit a plain lining (or even sew the old lining to a new one) Having done a bit of research into this it is now possible to offer an alternative. To order we can fit a lining with a custom map printed. This will be a modern map in most cases, but you can choose exactly what area you would like to have on it and what scale you would like.. This is NOT a cheap option (the map would cost us in the region of £50) but will be printed to a very high standard and be cartographically correct.

I have said this elsewhere on this site but I can't over emphasize that we carry out functional REPAIRS. We don't do museum quality restoration, which is a very different thing and not something we feel we are qualified to do.

The RiRi zips we use as replacements are made to our order and are a good match in colour and size for the originals, but we order relatively short runs so even they are expensive. They are however of very high quality and if I were going to actually WEAR a wartime Irvin fitted with DOT suspect I would take the DOT zips out & replace them with the RiRis. Then keep the DOTs in a safe & mothproof place. And on the subject of WEARING wartime Irvin or similar jackets, many of them, unless very well stored, will NEVER be good for every day wear - They are getting just too fragile. We can stabilize them to a certain extent but if they are worn they should be worn rarely and with GREAT care and very much at your own risk. Having said which we occasionally see specimens that look and feel as if they were just issued so it IS possible to find a wearer out there, but don't expect it to be cheap.

BYSON can accept credit / debit cards, but this will incure a charge due to the way we are charged in our turn. Card payments in person cost us 1.75% of the total. Card payment over the phone cost us 2.5%. Sadly we have to pass these charges on. Cash or cheques (payable to J.P. or G.J. Warr) are welcome. Payment can also be made by PayPal using the Send Money tab to Gwen(at)warrs.eclipse.co.uk. Sorry but we have to make a charge of £5.00 on Pay Pal UNLESS you can pay the charges at your end. Which I am told is possible. Direct transfer (details are on your invoice) is probably your best option if you are not visiting us.

 
   

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